Underwood makes the best ammo out there (I have some), and they sell Xtreme Defender rounds too for most calibers which penetrate optimally and create a permanent wound channel by hydraulic energy (they have slightly different fins than the penetrators. Look up videos on youtube showing how these penetrate different common materials and still penetrate the target the same almost no matter what.
Those were hollow points. The thing with HPs is that they depend on certain variables to perform (bullet velocity and weight, material, etc..). When those variables are in their favor they perform quite well , but when they aren't, and can happen far to often in real world situations (unlike perfectly set up ballistic gel), they don't open up, under penetrate, and/or deflect away from the point of aim.Reminds me of the Black Talons back in the day.
Kind of confusing, but +p can technically be used to define any bullet loaded to higher pressures on the high end of the SAAMI spec chart of pressures (not to go dangerously over thus blowing the barrel up). The term +p is referred to in the calibers; 9mm, 45 acp, 38 sp, 38 auto, and 257 Roberts (had to look that one up). Magnum loads were technically in the day a cartridge extended from a previous cartridge to offer a hotter, thus magnum load, but producing it's own caliber and need for a different chambered gun.Looks like they make Xtreme Penetrator for 44 magnum too. 40.50 for a box of 20. Ouch!
I wonder if they consider those to be +P loads?
Ya I thought about splitting it off, but since it pertains I am going to let it go. It's an interesting discussion.Sorry to derail the original thread, with the bullet proof glass mentioned, thought it would be interesting to bring up some modern bullet loadings that could bypass them.
Have you looked at Hornady's XTP line? I wonder how they compare. I have used XTP in one of my lever guns but, the devils jam.
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